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So I finally FINALLY finished reading John Hodgman's latest book, More Information than You Require. It's a funny book, but exhausting to read. The joke is that it's a book packed with "information" and so there's a lot of it, but sometimes the energy required to read all of it so as not to miss out on any of the funny is just too much.

There was, however, an awesome tangent Hodgman went on concerning a love affair between Thomas Jefferson and a re-gendered mole man. That made me LOL hard out in the park this afternoon.

I declare it good times, but maybe not good subway reading.


OK, onto TV.

SO GUYS I JUST FINISHED WATCHING SEASON 3 OF DOCTOR WHO. ZOMG.

Jesus fucking Christ! That was some epicness that just wouldn't stop being epic! The GAH and the WHEW and the WUT and the ARGH! Emotional rollercoaster. Emocoaster?

So now that I've finished the season *grabby hand gesture* MASTER/DOCTOR FIC PLZ. I'm obv. going to be scrounging for some myself, but if y'all got some that you've been hiding from me, plz to be sharing because...because...because....!

IMMA GONNA HAVE A PAIRING SQUEE RIGHT ABOUT NAO.

Guys, this is totes the feel-bad pairing of the century! It's doomed and twisted and sick and wrong, and it's also sad and weird and a little crazy. But it's also, I dunno, sweet the way the Doctor wants to take care of the Master, to help him, to keep him safe. And the Master is fucking insane in such a cool way. But so is the Doctor! And so, so, so, soooooo BLARGH.

ZOMG I have no FUCKING idea how the canon works here, but I've already got questions. I've already got ideas! Was it the Doctor that gave the Master the watch that would allow him to run from the Time War? Did the Doctor let him go because he wanted to keep him safe? No, no, no, he had no idea the Master was still alive, right? So I guess these watches are just, I dunno, Time Lord kit that gets handed out at the academy? How fucked up is that!?

Oh, hey, speaking of fucked up...

"We've gone back exactly one year ago, right after the President of the USA was assassinated. EVERYTHING'S BACK TO NORMAL! :D"

GUYS YOU COULDN'T HAVE GONE BACK 1 OR 2 MINUTES MORE TO I DUNNO SAVE OUR LEADER FROM BEING INCINERATED?

Hey, that's cool. I know how pissed you were at us back in 2006. I get it. But still. You've sort of left America hanging there. (Though I guess your PM was also teh ded so I suppose that's fair.)

ANOTHER QUESTION THIS TIME ABOUT TIME LORD BIOLOGY. So I guess, barring any accidents, a Time Lord's body can live indefinitely? I mean, the Master packed 900 years into the Doctor's body and it was still going, even though he looked gross. I heard a rumor somewhere (*cough*wikipedia*cough*) that Time Lords can only regenerate 13 times. Trufax? Or no?

ALSO HAI JACK HARKNESS = BOE. That's effed up too. Even a trillion years into the future, even if Jack was just a floating head in a jar, you KNOW he'd still be coming onto that Furry nurse of his and trying to shoot people in the face and downright being AMERICAN.

(btw, how cute is it when he says British phrases in his American voice? "You lot"? Dang, Russell T Davies, get an American friend to glance over your script. Or not! After all, you did kill our president like hard.)

While I'm at it, I guess Jack/Doctor isn't TOO distasteful. Bring it on, INTERNET.

I think that's all the squeeing and questions I have for now. MAN, am I glad I stuck with this show. Brew, thanks for kinda sorta making me watch it.

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Date: 2009-04-19 12:02 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] brewsternorth.livejournal.com
So I guess, barring any accidents, a Time Lord's body can live indefinitely? I mean, the Master packed 900 years into the Doctor's body and it was still going, even though he looked gross. I heard a rumor somewhere (*cough*wikipedia*cough*) that Time Lords can only regenerate 13 times. Trufax? Or no?

Yes to the first point; no to the second (twelve, not thirteen).

ALSO HAI JACK HARKNESS = BOE. That's effed up too.

No kidding. A lot of people eyeroll at RTD and handwave it if they're ficcing it (or, sometimes, write it interestingly into their stories).

While I'm at it, I guess Jack/Doctor isn't TOO distasteful. Bring it on, INTERNET.

As Boe himself says, you are not alone. There's definitely both Jack/Nine and Jack/Ten fic out there. And Master/Doctor (in different incarnations, too)!

Thankies!

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Date: 2009-04-19 12:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] triedunture.livejournal.com
There's TOO much! *flails at search results*

It'll take me AGES to go through all this fic. *whine whine whiiiiine*

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Date: 2009-04-19 12:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thirstyrobot.livejournal.com
Okay, my more technical Who canon is about as good as your average flower pot's, but I'll try.

I guess these watches are just, I dunno, Time Lord kit that gets handed out at the academy? How fucked up is that!?

LULZ. I think they come with the Chameleon Arch, so yeah, sorta. I suck at Master-background, and he pretty much breaks all the 'rules' anyway which is justified by the fact that he is BATSHIT.

The regeneration thing: 12 regenerations = 13 Doctors is sort of a guideline, I guess? So I'm told? There are ways to cheat it and tons of loopholes in canon, so if Moffatt (taking over for RTD after this round of specials) wants or needs to go beyond 13 a way will be found. The Master got given an extra life by the Time Lords, and then later he turns into a snake-type thing (WHUT) and uses some MacGuffin to get himself a new body. Or something. Just saying, there are ways.

(btw, how cute is it when he says British phrases in his American voice? "You lot"? Dang, Russell T Davies, get an American friend to glance over your script. Or not! After all, you did kill our president like hard.)

Technically Jack isn't supposed to be American, but it still sounds damned silly. It makes a little more sense in his S3 appearances because of where he's been living, but somehow I don't think they thought about that. :P

I've spent so long writing this that everyone else has probably answered it all way better, but oh well.

There is 9,000 gallons of Jack/Nine and /Ten and Doctor/Master ripe for your picking. Sadly I can't rec anything because it's mostly not my bag. (Whoverse pairings seem to need to contain Ianto Jones for me to like them much. Obvs I will tell you to watch Torchwood but you're just as likely to hate it as love it. It's kinda cracky. But canon slash! *points to icon*)

Oh, and if you can get your hands on S4, go for it. It had to grow on me a little but it ended up being a close contender for favorite.

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Date: 2009-04-19 12:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] triedunture.livejournal.com
I hear about this Ianto character a LOT. I assume he's adorable. Trust me, season 1 of Torchwood is next for me. I feel like I should savor season 4 of Who.

Your answers were all very helpful! YAY.

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Date: 2009-04-19 12:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thirstyrobot.livejournal.com
Ianto is beyond adorable. I want to squish his little Welsh cheeks and love him. Oh, and he's awesomely Jeevesy too.

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Date: 2009-04-19 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady529.livejournal.com
I SEE FILTHY!IANTO.

He needs a wash and a shag.

The Lady 529

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Date: 2009-04-19 01:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackletter.livejournal.com
Yay! Finally I can rec! I should note that I particularly like fics that explore Time Lord culture, biology, language, or general alienness. (Oh, and one thing you should know if you're going to read Doctor/Master fic is that they often refer to each other by their school names. The Doctor = Theta (or Theta Sigma). The Master = Koschei.

For creepy Time Lord history. (http://x-losfic.livejournal.com/16055.html)

For creepy regeneration sex. (http://astrogirl2.livejournal.com/422994.html)

More regeneration sex + alien linguistics. (http://mercurial-wit.livejournal.com/39518.html)

Not creepy Jack/Ten fic (http://shinodabear.livejournal.com/144697.html)

[livejournal.com profile] versaphile has lots of good Doctor/Master fic. (Including an *enormous* epic-in-progress called "Praxis".)

[livejournal.com profile] dameruth has some awesome crazy Time Lord biology in her fic. this (http://community.livejournal.com/wintercompanion/69150.html#cutid1) is probably my favorite.


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Date: 2009-04-19 01:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] triedunture.livejournal.com
The Doctor = Theta (or Theta Sigma). The Master = Koschei.

I JUST figured that out via a fic where it wasn't very clear. Ohhhhh I love alien crap! I love fake science! I love all that stuff.

I am going to drink some drinks and read these fics. Thanks much!

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Date: 2009-04-19 12:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pinglederry.livejournal.com
!!! You have just single-handedly doubled the number of DW stories I have saved on my computer. :) Especially the one with knives.

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Date: 2009-04-19 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackletter.livejournal.com
Yes! I have succeeded in my evil enabling!

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Date: 2009-04-19 01:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady529.livejournal.com
Welcome to the utter insanity, love.

Also, Captain Jack Harkness? Not American. Otherwise, oh yes, he'd be all over Novice Hame. And her lovely tail too.

The Lady 529

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Date: 2009-04-19 01:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] triedunture.livejournal.com
HE SAYS LAB-RATORY NOT LABORA-TORY. HE IS THEREFORE AMERICAN, Y/Y?

This is how we construct citizenship tests here btw.

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Date: 2009-04-19 01:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady529.livejournal.com
He's not from here, ergo N.

Also, he says ee-strogen, not eh-strogen (Torchwood 1x01, first thing he says). So there.

There has been major drama about this on various boards online. Batshittery and all that. Still, it's amusing to watch : )

Ianto's the sweetest thing ever. Think tiny wee baby wombat that's lost its mummy and needs you to pick it up and save it from the evils of the world. In a suit with a waistcoat.

The Lady 529

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Date: 2009-04-19 01:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] triedunture.livejournal.com
THE FIRST THING HE SAYS IS ESTROGEN?

Man, y'all aren't kidding when you say this show is way sexy.

OK OK, so he's not American. Fine. *huff* As long as waistcoats and braces are flying free, I'll be okay.

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Date: 2009-04-19 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady529.livejournal.com
Basically, yes, yes it is. As an answer to both questions.

He passes off as an American, but one of the first things the Torchwood 3 team establish is that no person with the name Jack Harkness has been born in the US in the last 50 years (YEAH, WONDER WHY) etc etc..

Also, Ianto says some words re:Jack that he pretty much has to eat later on, much to my amusement. Just how.. literally he has to eat anything, I'll leave up to your dirty wee mind to figure out once you see it.

Please to be watching TW S2 as well, I just re:watched it, and it's love. Has James Masters (aka Buffy's Spike) as the only character that's half as out there as Jack is. What love.

I need to shut up now and you need to watch so I won't spoil you.

The Lady 529

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Date: 2009-04-19 07:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] favoritedarknes.livejournal.com
Also, Ianto says some words re:Jack that he pretty much has to eat later on, much to my amusement.
I was just watching S1 again and actually LOL'ed at those scenes. Oh Ianto *pets him*

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Date: 2009-04-19 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady529.livejournal.com
I know. Owen thinks he is, Tosh thinks he isn't, and Ianto supposedly doesn't care. Yeah right, Mr. Welsh vowels..

The Lady 529

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Date: 2009-04-19 01:59 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] brewsternorth.livejournal.com
...yeah, you might have to wait for Jack sexin' it up a bit onscreen, but there's plenty of other action. *eg*

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Date: 2009-04-19 02:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady529.livejournal.com
There's a reason I said to watch S2 as well *rubs hands gleefully*

And those icons are so much win it hurts.

The Lady 529

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Date: 2009-04-19 07:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] favoritedarknes.livejournal.com
As long as waistcoats and braces are flying free, I'll be okay.
Believe me, it's everyone's wish :-)

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Date: 2009-04-19 11:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pinglederry.livejournal.com
I don't have many DW stories saved to my hard drive, but here are a couple:

Unfinished Conversations, which involves scenes from the Doctor and Master's school life and is vaguely slashy.

What I Didn't Know Then, which isn't exactly slash, and is a conversation between the two.

Paleolinguistics, which is one of my favorite DW stories, even though it's only maybe 200 words. I'm not much in the fandom (too big for my tastes), so maybe it's nothing special, but I like it a lot.

And on a related note...

Whatever Pays the Wages, which is Jack/lots of people (not all at once). Writer's summary - "'Tell me who I have to bribe, fuck, or kill to get out of here.' A case study in types of manipulation."

...It seems I didn't save the two epic-ish Doctor/Master fics I remember reading and liking. Drat. :( If I find them again, I'll let you know.

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Date: 2009-04-19 02:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alextraordinary.livejournal.com
-delving into Old Who canonology-

From the special "The Five Doctors" (like Time Crash, but more epic...and cheesy) the Master was given, in exchange for his help, a whole new set of regenerations from the High Council on Gallifrey. I've seen it once but, beyond that, I can't remember much... But, obviously, since the time war this is rendered pretty hopeless.

But, Alas, I have not seen season four, so I can't be too clear on this...

ALSO, for your future reference, time ladies can regenerate at will. (i.e. Romana who chooses several different forms before picking one that looks exactly like a girl they just saved. LOLZ)

I used to have memorized every single way the Doctor's regenerations were killed. I'm a bit fuzzy now, but the first was old age and one (I can't remember which now) was killed in a street gang fight in San Fransisco on New Years Eve 1999. That one's pretty random...

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Date: 2009-04-19 02:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] triedunture.livejournal.com
So the Doctor must have had kids at some point, right? Because he had a granddaughter? So in the interests of science, I would like to know all the theories of how Time Lords and Ladies....do it.

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Date: 2009-04-19 07:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackletter.livejournal.com
Looms! (http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Loom)

Seriously, if you want to cause chaos in a Doctor Who comm, just mention the canonocity of the Looms. There has been massive wank on whether this is canon or not, and whether it's the *only* way Time Lords reproduce or not.

(My theory is that reproduce, marriage, and sex are all culturally separate entities. Who a Time Lord reproduces with is based on genetics (and yes, I think there are Looms). Who a Time Lord marries is based on politics. And who a Time Lord has sex with is based who they actually like. And this is usually three entirely different people. That's all just my personal fanon, though.)

[livejournal.com profile] dameruth gives Time Lords some very strange sexual organs. This fic is probably the best example of that. (http://www.whofic.com/viewstory.php?sid=17144&warning=Adult)

Most fic, however, even fic I love, is in that aspect disappointingly human. Although some people do get some good telepathy!sex going.

Edited to fix link.

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Date: 2009-04-19 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] triedunture.livejournal.com
I was JUST thinking about telepathy!sex. I mean, when you look at the biggest differences between Time Lords and humans, it's the fact that Time Lords aren't very attached to their bodies, yeah? I mean, they get a new one every few seasons. Soooooo why wouldn't their naughty pleasures be mental instead of physical? I think that's plausible.

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Date: 2009-04-19 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alextraordinary.livejournal.com
Ooooo...thank you for explaining looms.

I was about to call in some backup to help tell about eet. :D

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Date: 2009-04-19 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tasha-elizabeth.livejournal.com
Hurray! Your Doctor Who squees make me so happy. According to my own journal, I was doing this exactly one year ago today!

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Date: 2009-04-19 06:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] triedunture.livejournal.com
That's crazy! It's like I'm your past self, and we're trapped in some kind of rift thingy!

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Date: 2009-04-20 01:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tasha-elizabeth.livejournal.com
Okay! Okay! Mustn't panic! The important thing is not to touch! That always makes bad things happen.

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Date: 2009-04-20 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] triedunture.livejournal.com
You're right, you're right. OK.

...

*slowly leans forward to poke*

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Date: 2009-04-20 02:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tasha-elizabeth.livejournal.com
*considers*

Ah, what the hell.

*pokes your finger*

*Universe implodes!*

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